July 14th, 2008 Chat Session

IRC Chat on Freenode.net/#pacslinux

(07:33:44 PM) Ronn [n=chatzill@c-71-58-183-203.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.

(07:34:22 PM) Ronn: hello randy

(07:34:50 PM) rmg: evening Ronn

(07:34:55 PM) Ronn: do u know when Jim fisher comes on?

(07:35:26 PM) rmg: I'm never sure if he is going to make it or not

(07:36:03 PM) Ronn: My dad is now doing a live video and audio stream of his talk show on the internet

(07:36:26 PM) rmg: sounds like fun

(07:37:19 PM) Ronn: It was a lot of work yesterday but ustream.tv helps out a lot. Starting next week he's doing shows on mon-wed-fri's

(07:37:50 PM) Ronn: i might show some of this at the SIG on Saturday

(07:38:43 PM) rmg: that should keep him busy

(07:39:26 PM) Ronn: I hope so. I start learning Linux next Thursday.

(07:39:51 PM) rmg: maybe by then Windows will have finished defragging

(07:40:13 PM) rmg: install it, then play with it

(07:40:44 PM) rmg: 27 hours of defrag so far

(07:41:59 PM) Ronn: I plan on installing it on the laptap after the SIG so I have something to play with. I'll probably get a new HD for the laptop so I can duel boot with more room

(07:42:20 PM) Ronn: question and linux applications

(07:42:32 PM) Ronn: do they all work on all flavors?

(07:42:54 PM) rmg: not always

(07:43:23 PM) rmg: I think it all depends on which distro you use

(07:44:30 PM) rmg: for example, if it's debian based, then the software should work on any distro that is debian based

(07:45:21 PM) rmg: with Ubuntu that's not much of a problem since it has a large repo

(07:45:43 PM) Ronn: I'll be working with OPEN SUSE . I'm not sure if it's ver 9 or the newest

(07:46:04 PM) rmg: just use one of the package managers to install all the software

(07:46:27 PM) rmg: don't know anything about it

(07:46:39 PM) rmg: never had any reason to use it

(07:47:15 PM) Ronn: The Linux plus certification is based around Novell's OPENSUSE

(07:48:20 PM) rmg: you should ask in one of the Ubuntu based chat rooms

(07:48:44 PM) rmg: there are more long time users in there

(07:49:03 PM) Ronn: i'll check them out

(07:49:07 PM) Ronn: thanks.

(07:49:17 PM) rmg: try #ubuntu-us-pa

(07:49:25 PM) Ronn: i better get back to studying for my network + cert.

(07:49:54 PM) rmg: I'll just sit here and wait to see if anyone else shows up

(07:49:57 PM) Ronn left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]").

(07:53:58 PM) yoda_van [n=jim_fish@unaffiliated/jedijf] entered the room.

(07:54:11 PM) rmg: evening yoda_van

(07:55:15 PM) yoda_van: evening

(07:55:23 PM) yoda_van: was ronn here?

(07:55:31 PM) rmg: Ronn was looking for you

(07:55:38 PM) yoda_van: he just called but

(07:55:43 PM) yoda_van: let me check messages

(07:57:46 PM) yoda_van: ok - about his dad's show

(07:57:48 PM) yoda_van: cool

(07:58:41 PM) teddy-dbear [n=teddy-db@c-71-230-172-98.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.

(07:59:30 PM) rmg: he mentioned that in here

(08:03:04 PM) yoda_van: now using wicd on the apple iBook

(08:04:18 PM) rmg: still waiting for Windows to finish defragging

(08:04:33 PM) rmg: 28 hours and still going

(08:08:17 PM) yoda_van: that is ridiculous

(08:08:35 PM) rmg: that's Windows

(08:08:49 PM) rmg: 63%

(08:08:59 PM) yoda_van: makes me feel better about the auto fsck

(08:09:16 PM) yoda_van: even though every time it happens i think about changing it

(08:09:29 PM) teddy-dbear: now how am I going to go bowling?

(08:09:51 PM) yoda_van: if that's your only issue

(08:10:03 PM) yoda_van: you are in good shape

(08:10:15 PM) yoda_van: 9-12 saturday, right?

(08:10:37 PM) teddy-dbear: it's important to me!!!!

(08:10:45 PM) yoda_van: i may attend a windows sig - jeeze - hope noone has a camera

(08:11:26 PM) teddy-dbear: bring me treats and I won't tell :)

(08:11:32 PM) yoda_van: rmg51, is your el camino brown?

(08:11:39 PM) rmg: grey

(08:11:46 PM) yoda_van: darn

(08:11:49 PM) rmg: light grey

(08:11:59 PM) yoda_van: i though maybe you could ubuntu it up :D

(08:12:36 PM) yoda_van: i can't believe i got no response from pres about sfd - i hope spam filter ate it

(08:12:47 PM) rmg: come up with a plan and maybe it can happen

(08:13:21 PM) rmg: he might not be checking email over the summer

(08:13:29 PM) yoda_van: i think he should acknowledge the first email - without that i am assuming he's not interested

(08:14:16 PM) rmg: well, as a group we haven't done much planning

(08:14:28 PM) yoda_van: i am serious that we can go with linux wireless as a sig for sept - with hardy and wubi as sub topics

(08:14:46 PM) yoda_van: and software freedom in general

(08:15:02 PM) yoda_van: which is sort of kind of our theme always

(08:15:19 PM) rmg: or just spend the time getting Rich G's wireless to work

(08:15:28 PM) yoda_van: i am serious that we can go with linux wireless as a sig for sept - with hardy and wubi as sub topics

(08:15:59 PM) yoda_van: Rich may have thrown so much shit against the wall that he may have to start from scratch

(08:16:08 PM) rmg: as long as we have the right people there to lead it

(08:16:14 PM) rmg: hint, hint

(08:16:20 PM) InHisName [n=Administ@c-71-225-221-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.

(08:16:22 PM) yoda_van: that happens - i did the same thing all weekend

(08:16:38 PM) yoda_van: had to step back and try to undo everything

(08:16:46 PM) rmg: remember, I had it working at PACS

(08:16:58 PM) InHisName: it?

(08:17:00 PM) yoda_van: you know, when he says that

(08:17:09 PM) yoda_van: i know that everything is fine

(08:17:19 PM) yoda_van: its just a matter of the user

(08:17:44 PM) yoda_van: i think that i can offer no help outside of a face-to-face

(08:18:04 PM) rmg: bring Cindy, tell her to come "packing"

(08:18:11 PM) yoda_van: haha

(08:19:02 PM) yoda_van: i think go over setup - info gathering - drivers - command line and gui stuff will help a lot of people

(08:19:23 PM) yoda_van: it translates to all devices,

(08:19:47 PM) teddy-dbear: and a swift kick in the butt wouldn't hurt

(08:20:21 PM) yoda_van: you know i think that often, then i relax and say everyone doesn't have the hacker/tinkerer spirit

(08:20:49 PM) InHisName: Seems to be a tiny bit crude for software freedom day planning?

(08:21:05 PM) yoda_van: and just want it to work - but, even with that you have to be willing to invest the time to learn also

(08:21:11 PM) InHisName: or are you two on something completly different?

(08:21:25 PM) yoda_van: InHisName,

(08:21:38 PM) yoda_van: i am serious that we can go with linux wireless as a sig for sept - with hardy and wubi as sub topics

(08:21:57 PM) InHisName: velly interrrrresting.

(08:22:10 PM) yoda_van: and software freedom in general

(08:22:32 PM) yoda_van: which is sort of kind of our theme always

(08:22:46 PM) InHisName: We are getting pretty long in the tooth with our current methods etc.

(08:22:49 PM) rmg: that would mean no setting up and handing out disks

(08:23:19 PM) yoda_van: rmg51, i think that's always part of it

(08:23:28 PM) InHisName: Do a dry run in Aug ?

(08:23:44 PM) rmg: last year we didn't hold our SIG

(08:23:57 PM) yoda_van: on wireless setups - config - info gathering - driver installing

(08:24:33 PM) yoda_van: i would be better set for september

(08:24:58 PM) yoda_van: i have all the problem hardware that i use working - right now the dreaded broadcom

(08:25:05 PM) yoda_van: on the toshiba atheros

(08:25:28 PM) yoda_van: and by then (hopefully) wireless broadband pcmcia on linux

(08:25:46 PM) rmg: I can always let you take a crack at my external install

(08:26:38 PM) yoda_van: i need you for the gui hardware stuff

(08:26:57 PM) yoda_van: do you still have a gutsy install?

(08:26:57 PM) InHisName: Not A or B or G or N but broadband, like the verizon pmcia wireless card with expensive subscriptions ?

(08:27:05 PM) yoda_van: InHisName, yeppers

(08:27:10 PM) teddy-dbear: I'll help in any wau I can

(08:27:12 PM) InHisName: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

(08:27:31 PM) yoda_van: $60.00 per month i pay - invaluable for me

(08:27:59 PM) rmg: I'm still running Gutsy on this laptop

(08:28:00 PM) InHisName: Cause you work from the van more that half your life ?

(08:28:02 PM) yoda_van: i use roughly $2000.00 a month worth of 'metered' data so its cheap

(08:28:16 PM) yoda_van: InHisName, 1/3

(08:28:38 PM) yoda_van: 1/2 office

(08:28:42 PM) yoda_van: 1/6 home

(08:29:22 PM) InHisName: Oh, my bad, 12 at office and 8 on the road. and 4 home ?

(08:29:39 PM) yoda_van: actually its not that bad

(08:29:41 PM) InHisName: fills up the day!

(08:29:50 PM) yoda_van: 7 at home on average

(08:30:10 PM) yoda_van: the other 17 combo - office / road -- it's a blur

(08:31:09 PM) yoda_van: rmg51, you never answered - is sat 9 to 12?

(08:31:16 PM) rmg: yep

(08:31:38 PM) yoda_van: depending on how my training goes - i may make all or part of it

(08:31:52 PM) rmg: and Hatboro car show on the 26th

(08:31:59 PM) yoda_van: depending on how windowsy it is also ;)

(08:32:23 PM) yoda_van: you liked that last year huh

(08:32:48 PM) rmg: come Sept you'll need something to occupy your time

(08:32:51 PM) rocker68 [n=chris@d-65-175-229-7.cpe.metrocast.net] entered the room.

(08:33:01 PM) InHisName: howdy rocker68

(08:33:09 PM) rocker68: yo guys

(08:33:13 PM) rmg: I usually go every year

(08:33:22 PM) rmg: long time no see

(08:33:24 PM) yoda_van: dude

(08:33:30 PM) rocker68: yep

(08:33:41 PM) yoda_van: come shopping in pa in sept :D

(08:33:46 PM) rocker68: had a lil spare time figured I would drop in to say hello

(08:34:16 PM) rmg: PACS just put you out of a job

(08:34:21 PM) rocker68: why shopping in sept?

(08:34:33 PM) rmg: PACS moved

(08:34:34 PM) yoda_van: pacs is moving to giant supermarket

(08:34:44 PM) rocker68: yeah I know all about it

(08:34:47 PM) yoda_van: err, has moved

(08:34:52 PM) rocker68: sounds like a real nice building

(08:35:09 PM) rocker68: I think some of the sigs are going to have an issue with space

(08:35:12 PM) InHisName: it is, former Home Depot of Willow grove

(08:35:31 PM) rmg: no more setting up routers

(08:36:07 PM) rmg: we will find out in Sept

(08:36:17 PM) rocker68: yeah they have wireless and projectors

(08:36:21 PM) rmg: the rooms seem big enough

(08:36:35 PM) InHisName: 26 cap for the smaller rooms.

(08:36:37 PM) rmg: just not enough rooms

(08:36:40 PM) rocker68: I talked to Ben earlier today

(08:37:04 PM) InHisName: any news ?

(08:37:05 PM) rocker68: he is excited about going to MIT

(08:37:15 PM) InHisName: I kinda figured.

(08:37:20 PM) yoda_van: haven't heard from him since may/june

(08:37:24 PM) rocker68: any news on what?

(08:37:30 PM) InHisName: Ben

(08:38:51 PM) rocker68: how are things going there?

(08:38:54 PM) rocker68: slow?

(08:39:49 PM) rmg: very slow 64%

(08:40:36 PM) rocker68: has kevin been around?

(08:40:58 PM) rmg: he doesn't usually hang out in here

(08:41:05 PM) rocker68: what about the NTProfit laptops?

(08:41:06 PM) InHisName: July is 1/2 over already and I still don't have my vbox clients into shareing file folders and printers with normal XP in the family workgroup.

(08:41:15 PM) rocker68: not sure I named it correctly

(08:41:21 PM) rmg: mostly in the loco room

(08:41:37 PM) InHisName: #ubuntu-us-pa

(08:42:02 PM) rmg: laptop project is almost over

(08:42:11 PM) yoda_van: http://www.myfisher.org/ntrlaptops

(08:42:18 PM) rmg: just have to put them out for sale

(08:42:41 PM) yoda_van: rmg51's gonna enter them into the database

(08:43:11 PM) rmg: if Kevin hasn't already finished

(08:43:46 PM) yoda_van: i don't know - he was there recently i think

(08:44:09 PM) rmg: second home

(08:44:23 PM) InHisName: kev still mentions it between many zoe pictures.

(08:44:32 PM) rmg: have you seen how they are fixing the place up?

(08:44:39 PM) yoda_van: yep

(08:44:42 PM) InHisName: not lately

(08:45:24 PM) rmg: slowly starting to look like someplace you'd like to visit

(08:45:54 PM) yoda_van: i liked it the way it was

(08:46:25 PM) yoda_van: until i see otherwise, i think they are putting earrings on a pig as they say

(08:47:04 PM) rmg: maybe by the time they are done you will be able to find things

(08:47:11 PM) yoda_van: that's no fun

(08:47:20 PM) rmg: probable not

(08:47:23 PM) yoda_van: lokking for stuff you find even neater stuff

(08:48:00 PM) rmg: except when you need power cords to go with laptops

(08:48:32 PM) yoda_van: yeah, that sucks

(08:48:55 PM) yoda_van: larry was pissed that last monday when we put him to work :D

(08:49:06 PM) rmg: the laptop room was the next in line

(08:49:28 PM) yoda_van: that's why we sorted the good stuff and just left the rest

(08:50:01 PM) yoda_van: we had 19'ish that we kept - all had power cords - god knows where they are now

(08:50:03 PM) rmg: sorting through all the bins?

(08:50:20 PM) yoda_van: all the stuff on the wall is gone or going

(08:50:32 PM) InHisName: Sold maybe ?

(08:50:37 PM) yoda_van: our stuff is on the rack in the back right corner in bread boxes

(08:50:41 PM) rmg: mostly junk anyway

(08:50:51 PM) yoda_van: yep

(08:50:57 PM) yoda_van: except the bread box stuff

(08:51:26 PM) InHisName: like those bread boxes do we, yoda_van ?

(08:51:36 PM) yoda_van: 14 or 15 completed and like 5 more in case some new people wanted to play

(08:51:37 PM) rich2506_ [n=rich2506@c-68-42-25-141.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.

(08:51:40 PM) rmg: as long as Norm is there to stop anyone from trashing them

(08:51:53 PM) rich2506_: wuzzup y'all?

(08:51:55 PM) InHisName: howdy, rich2506_

(08:52:06 PM) InHisName: July is 1/2 over already and I still don't have my vbox clients into shareing file folders and printers with normal XP in the family workgroup.

(08:52:07 PM) yoda_van: chuck was supposed to watch them - that's his room now - ebay sales

(08:52:43 PM) rmg: I find out in 2 weeks

(08:53:06 PM) InHisName: NTR is doing ebay now ?

(08:53:14 PM) rmg: I just can't stay late if I want to get to the car show

(08:53:26 PM) yoda_van: yeah - that's something else we can promote at sfd - $100 laptops to play with

(08:53:38 PM) yoda_van: InHisName, always has

(08:53:43 PM) rich2506_: i finally got the cds to reinstall windows on my desktop, now its deteriorated so far that the cd player doesn't work anymore

(08:53:44 PM) InHisName: yoda_van, but the 26th is NOT a 3rd sat.

(08:54:05 PM) rmg: \maybe we should have few on hand

(08:54:27 PM) yoda_van: rmg51, i was thinking the same thing

(08:54:47 PM) InHisName: NTR has low demand from Philly residents ? Too much supply ?

(08:54:56 PM) yoda_van: and some brochures

(08:55:16 PM) rmg: not that many people know about it

(08:55:34 PM) yoda_van: and the prices are a little high i think also

(08:55:35 PM) rmg: or at least I don't think they do

(08:56:50 PM) InHisName: keven just popped into the local

(08:56:57 PM) rich2506_: so a reasonable laptop price would be?

(09:01:41 PM) rich2506_: so what's the other forum that everybody's on?

(09:04:45 PM) InHisName: #ubuntu-us-pa

(09:07:32 PM) rich2506_: kewl

(09:09:36 PM) rich2506_ left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat").

(09:10:32 PM) rich2506_ [n=rich2506@c-68-42-25-141.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room.

(09:13:25 PM) InHisName: welcome back rich2506_

(09:15:32 PM) rich2506_: thank ye

(09:16:14 PM) rich2506_: well, i tried going back to linuxwireless and followed the instructions

(09:16:35 PM) rich2506_: appeared to work, but still can't on that way

(09:17:01 PM) InHisName: keep trying. I don't have wireless yet.

(09:18:31 PM) rich2506_: really? that bites

(09:23:00 PM) InHisName: I'm happy so far....

(09:23:53 PM) rich2506_: yeah, i mean i can get on line, but i can't take the laptop anywhere unless i just download material to read

(09:24:53 PM) rich2506_: if you're on a train ride, that's cool, but if you'r downtown at a coffee shop, pfft!

(09:25:57 PM) InHisName: these guys are discussing the Verizon Broadband wireless. The mucho $$$$ not the G or N 30 foot stuff.

(09:28:15 PM) rich2506_: ah

(09:58:09 PM) yoda_van left the room (quit: "Time to make the donuts.").

(10:00:55 PM) rmg: well, at least there was a lively discussion in the loco room

(10:01:10 PM) InHisName: Started here first

(10:03:29 PM) rich2506_ left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat").

(10:07:45 PM) rmg: looks like we died in here

(10:08:09 PM) rmg: may as well call it a night

(10:08:29 PM) rocker68 left the room.

(10:08:33 PM) InHisName: OK, then it is a NIGHT.

(10:08:52 PM) rmg: that's what I said

(10:11:44 PM) rmg: 30 hours to defrag XP

(10:11:59 PM) rmg: finally done

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